Henry Pickering, scholar and uncle to the Throckmorton children, comes to visit. He, with two other scholars of his acquaintance, take advantage of the visit follow Mother Samuel about her errands without the knowledge of the Throckmorton family. They watch her exchange a wooden tankard for some barme and talk to one of the neighbours, then stop her in the street and begin questioning her. She is loud, abrupt and will not accept their rebuke for her to "keep the womans vertue, & be more silent." She uses the opportunity to complain of Robert Throckmorton's misuse of her, to accuse the children of wantonness for their fits and criticize Throckmorton for not punishing bad behaviour. (32-33)

Henry Pickering demands Mother Alice Samuel tell him of her service to God and tries unsuccessfully to get her to say that by saying "her God would deliver her, her God would defend her, and revenge her of her enemie, alway using the phrase of my God wil doo this & that for me" she meant a God other than the one of the Church. After this, she insisted she needed to go, for "her husband would beat her for her long tarrying." Pickering lets her leave, but insists she confess or repent, and threatens that if she did not, "he himselfe would bring fire & wood, & the children should blowe the coales." As she leaves, she tells him in turn that "I had rather...see you dowsed over head and eares in this pond."(32-33)

Joan Throckmorton has a fit while her uncle Henry Pickering is out observing and talking with Mother Alice Samuel. During this fit, she allegedly reports everything Mother Samuel does, what she is wearing, and repeats the conversation between her and Pickering verbatim. Hearing this, Robert Throckmorton asks about Pickering's whereabouts; no-one knows where he is and had not seen him since the evening prayer at the church. Throckmorton goes to find Pickering, meets him in the churchyard and tells him what has transpired; they return to the house and the children tell Pickering everything he and Mother Samuel have been doing that day.(33-34)

A spirit in the form of a dun chicken allegedly begins to appear to the Throckmorton girls regularly, starting with their uncle Henry Pickering's visit. This spirit claims to have been sent by Mother Alice Samuel to torment and vex them, and tells them "many things concerning mother Samuell, insomuch that she coulde doo almost nothing at home for a great time, but the spirit woulde disclose."(33-34)